When author CC Mackenzie agreed to come and
sit in our hot seat, I was very excited. She’s our first indie-published
interviewee and I know she has loads to share with us. This well-connected
author has received 5* reviews for her first indie-published book, has a wealth
of valuable insight into social media and has lots of information for those of
you considering the indie-publishing route. She’s also offered to give away 2
copies of each of her books! Let’s find out more…
Q: You’re a writer of contemporary romance and urban
fantasy. What attracts you to these genres? Is there a common thread that draws
you to them both?
I write sexy, contemporary romance and a sexy, futuristic urban fantasy.
The genres have their own ‘rules’ but the themes are the same:-
During a life changing event in their
lives, two people meet, are violently attracted, overcome external and
authentic internal conflicts to fallen in love with ‘the one’. And the path to
true love never runs smoothly for valid reasons. The internal emotional
conflicts must ALWAYS take precedence over the external conflicts in a romance.
Q: You recently embarked on indie-publishing. What prompted
you to publish your work this way as oppose to the traditional route?
I got cancer
in October 2009.
After spending years mastering the craft (that part never
ends) I submitted again to Mills & Boon in February 2010. I received a
‘good’ rejection in June 2010 which highlighted areas of weakness with a
request to re-submit the story. I decided I didn’t have a year to wait for a
response and then another two years before the book’s in print. Becoming sick
helped me lose the fear of failure. After a couple of big operations I finaled
in three competitions in the United States in 2011, two for Harlequin and the
annual Romance Junkies competition which runs from January - May. I had amazing
reader feedback and hundreds of emails, which gave me confidence. And all of this
coincided with the digital publishing revolution.
But before I continue, I just want to say that my dream is
to be published every single possible way and that’s because the reader wants
it all. My motivation and focus at all times is The Reader. Change is being
reader driven and the sooner we all work together to give them what they want
the better.
Q: Reckless
Nights in Rome is the first novel you’ve self-published and it’s clearly
holding its own without any promotion from you. Can you tell us more about it
as well as the process you went through from completing the novel to getting it
out there?
I’ve sold over 400 in three months and don’t promote my books. I leave that for readers to do and they’re beginning to band together. I promote CC MacKenzie as a person and as an author, because I am the brand and my stories are a product of that brand. Does that make sense to you guys reading this? Because it is a very important distinction to make when you’re dealing with social networking. Social networking is... social. So I try to think of it as if I were attending a party or a big social function where I know no one. I asked myself how would I feel if met a person who was only interested in talking about selling their books, their issues or how wonderful they were. I’d soon move on to someone more fun to be with or more interesting. It’s a high concept to get our head around but very important imho.
Reckless is the first story in a linked series about the Ludlow family of Ludlow Hall and their close friends and acquaintances. Poor boy made good, gorgeous tdh Italian Nico Ferranti acquires Ludlow Hall and turns it into a luxurious Spa and Hotel. Bronte Ludlow has lost her parents, her home, her fiancé’s dumped her, and she’s moved to The Dower House where she’s set up her award winning wedding cake business. Nico wants to purchase The Dower House and surrounding land to complete the estate. Bronte’s having none of it and when they meet it’s fireworks between them.
Reckless was the story Mills & Boon turned down and I
implemented their suggestions. I changed the theme, worked on character
development and made a secondary character less intrusive.
As far as getting the book ready for publication was
concerned, I have a team of eight people. Reckless must have been edited at
least thirty times over its life cycle. But it was a fantastic learning curve,
I can’t tell you how many times I thought ‘that’s it, all done!’ And then
realised it needed something more. At some point we need to let the story go.
The realisation that if anything went wrong, the buck stops with me was
terrifying as well as exciting and very freeing. I have three critique partners
that I met online in 2009 in the Mills & Boon Romance Is Not Dead
competition (now known as New Voices), two of whom are editors.
I’ve three voracious beta readers of romance, who are not
writers or friends or family, and they read the final copy. I will never
publish a book without their opinion. Something every author needs to get her
head around is to understand that once the book’s gone it no longer belongs to
the writer, it belongs to the reader.
As far as self publishing is concerned, the challenge is to
make the copy as ‘clean’ as possible which meant learning digital formatting.
I’m lucky, I have two technological experts living at home. The Smashwords ‘how
to’ book on epublishing is free and is a must for anyone, but there are
excellent people out there who will do it for an author as well as a variety of
editors/copy editors/graphic designers for covers etc. Apart from editing we
did the whole thing ourselves. Scary. Any questions about the self-publishing
process, please ask!
Reckless has done incredibly well, especially in the United
States, where it’s received 5* reviews which came out of the blue. I never ask
for reviews from other writers, friends or family. It’s a bad business ethic
and it annoys readers (as can be seen by the conversations about reviews on
some Kindle discussion boards.)
A core group of readers set up a discussion about Reckless
on Goodreads – I had no idea and was alerted via another author. The author
doesn’t participate in discussions and it was a real eye opener to see what
they loved or thought was missing.
Q: Your next book, A
Stormy Spring, has just launched. Can we have some insider
information on that too, please?
It came out on Monday and is doing well!
Stormy is a story I’d been working on for almost four years but didn’t have the
skills required to tell the deeply emotional tale of West End theatre and film
choreographer Becca Wainwright and the big, gorgeous Spaniard and PR Guru,
Lucas Del Garda. Becca is a tortured soul who’s lost such a lot in her life
under tragic circumstances and has thrown herself into work to forget. One
stormy night with Lucas and.... well.... that’s all I’ll say.
I always fall madly in love with my hero, but Lucas has
captured a big part of my heart. He’s a true hero in the very best sense of the
word.
One thing I want to say is that it’s not until a
self-published author has about five/seven books out that they gain a loyal
following. Things are changing as I write and reader expectations are
demanding. Trying to hit a moving target is not easy. So it’s crucial that a
writer doesn’t launch until they’ve at least five completed works under their
belt. I’ve at least that with others in the pipeline. To have those stories
behind us takes the pressure off when social networking scrambles our brain.
And my vampire books are written three at a time to keep me in the series and
in the head of the characters. Need to start editing those soon, I’m a month
behind at the moment.
Q: You’re also self-publishing another way by serialising
your novel, Desert Orchid,
live through your blog. You’ve said it’s taking shape as you write. First of
all, where does your courage come from to do this? And second of all, why do
it?
Ah yes, the story of Queen Charisse El Haribe and Prince
Khalid El Haribe. Now there’s a tortured hero. Think a cross between a
champagne swilling rock star, womaniser, world renowned painter and Arab Prince
who’s rejected his family, culture and country. Boy, has he had it tough and
Charisse is just the woman to sort this wicked bad boy out! His uncle dies and
names Khalid as his heir to run the tiny kingdom of Onnur. In order to inherit
he must marry the widow, Charisse, within weeks and get her pregnant within the
year (nothing like a challenge). There’s a lot of adventure in this one since
their lives and the country come under threat. She’s the first person I’ve ever
shot - and it was great fun:)
After Reckless was sent out into the world and even though
it was well received, my mood dipped. I’ve since learned that this is a common
reaction to a book being launched. Writing each and every day is key to
developing and improving our craft. So after speaking to another writer, I had
this brilliant idea (to keep me focused) that I would serialise a story as it
went along on my blog. I must have been touched by the insanity fairy. I
wouldn’t have missed it for anything. But would I do it again? NO.
Q: Not only are you (clearly) constantly writing, you’re
also heavily involved in tweeting, facebooking and blogging. How important do
you think social media is for the writer? And how do you manage it all?
Indie writer, Diane Capri, writes legal thrillers and her
eighth book has just hit No 2 beating John Grisham and she said that if it
wasn’t for her WANA group’s support with guest blogging etc., she’d never have
made it. It helped that Lee Child posted a link to her book and mentioned her
on his blog.
Young adult indie writer, Jillian Dodd, has hit the top ten
in her genre and has posted a full ‘how she did it’ interview with The Romance
University (link below) and is talking honest numbers.
Both writers are part of my We Are Not Alone group. I can
recommend Kristen Lamb’s ‘We Are Not Alone’ social networking group and blog.
I’ve posted the link at the bottom. However, social networking is a steep
learning curve for us creative types.
As far as social networking to connect to readers is
concerned, it is true up to a point. But every single reader who’s contacted me
wants to know when the next book’s out. That’s it. They might say they love our
characters - Rosie went down well in Reckless and has her own book coming out
in September 2012. But if they want to talk about a book, readers gather on the
Kindle boards, Shelfari or on Goodreads and they do NOT want authors involved
in their discussions. Having said that, never ever ignore a fan! These are the
people who’ll buy your next book and the one after that, so the reader is my
priority when it comes to responding to emails or messages.
Unless you’ve a book about to be published or published, the
people you meet on social networking sites are other writers. And that’s
wonderful for support and help and information gathering/sharing. The writer
must find the area that works for them. The key is to find a balance. When I’m
in the middle of a discovery draft, social networking is the last thing I want
to do. However, there are messages to respond to and readers to acknowledge.
What works for me is to write first and then limit my time
online.
I blog once a week unless something catches my eye and I
never blog about my books or writing. But I will slip in that my new book’s out
for example at the end (except serialising the story, but that’s on a separate
page on the blog, not at the front). I need to blog more often (!) The blog is
all about connecting and letting readers see how I tick. Having said all that,
I am going to start a ‘Behind the Book’ weekly segment with a guest author to
talk about their work. Just need to set that up. So anyone who wants a spot,
email me.
But the key, the most important thing in your lives as
writers is TO WRITE. So, the craft must come first, then the story.
Q: What’s the most rewarding
aspect of writing for you?
The joy of writing and learning everything about my
characters and what’s made them who they are and why. They’re very real to me
and when a story takes off there’s nothing like it in the world.
A big part of the joy of writing for me is mentoring and
encouraging others that I believe have the talent to take the world by storm. I
have four fabulous writers at various stages that I’m in touch with – one of
whom is called Lindsay Pryor, you might have heard of her.
Q: Who or what has been your
biggest influence in your writing decisions?
Two authors I found in my childhood Elinor M Brent Dyer’s
Chalet School books and the incomparable Georgette Heyer. The late Jack M
Bickham’s Scene and Structure, was critical in understanding dialogue, scene
and sequence structure.
Today, it would be JA Konrath and Barry Eisler for nudging
me off the end of the self publishing cliff. (They do not pull their punches on
the state of publishing today.)
India Grey for her advice not to ‘over think it’ and
support. Jane Wenham-Jones who’s insane and wonderful and told me five years
ago I was a writer. James Scott Bell who said to keep writing, don’t read
reviews and have goals. His Art of War for writers is a must - read his book
and all will become clear, grasshopper!
Thanks so
much for coming to join us today, Christine. And thank you for offering to give
away four copies of your books! If you’d like to be in with a chance to win,
all you have to do is leave a comment. Names will be picked out of a hat on SATURDAY. Be sure to come back and visit as I'll be announcing the winners then.
In the
meantime, if you’d like to keep track of what Christine is up to you can find
her in the following places:
email:
ccmackenzie56@gmail.com
If you’d
like to purchase Christine’s books, they can be found here:
And finally
here are those great links Christine told us about:
Kristen
Lamb’s Social Networking groups http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/
Jillian
Dodd interview at The Romance University http://romanceuniversity.org/2012/07/09/marketing-for-new-authors-jillian-dodd/
Thanks so much for giving up your time and visiting us, Christine. It was great interviewing you. I wish you every success with Reckless, Stormy and Desert Orchid and I'll be keeping a VERY close eye on the vampire books to come. ;-)
ReplyDeleteHello Lindsay and the wonderful girls of The Hot Pink Typewriter!
DeleteLook at you? What a great site. Who'd have thought New Voices would have led to this?
Thank you so much for inviting me here today, it's my first interview. So you've a virgin on your hands!
Any questions please ask.
Awesome interview Christine. I love your approach to writing and the aspect of a support group is crucial. It's so encouraging to see an Indie author doing so well. I absolutely love how your brush with cancer changed your perspective. You are right. We don't always have time to wait on our dreams. We have to grab them!! Good luck!
ReplyDeleteHello Ginger,
DeleteYes, sometimes life gives us a gentle nudge in the right direction. And it's turned out well, thus far!
Wonderful interview! You have such a great attitude about writing, social media and life in general. I'm happy you are doing so well with your published works. Reckless was a great read and I can't wait to read Stormy!
ReplyDeleteHello Rhonda,
DeleteThank you for stopping by!
Thank you so much for joining us, Christine. Fantastic interview, and what an amazing time to be a writer! I have an endless fascination with indie publishing, so I have been very much looking forward to this post. :-)
ReplyDeleteI love that you approach your writing with urgency because really, what other way is there to live? Your voice shines, and it's easy for me to see why your readers have responded so positively. Congratulations on all of your well-deserved success, and please come back again! xx
Hello Natalie,
DeleteLovely to speak to you and what a great site! I'll come back whenever you want me.
Hi Christine what an amazing story of strength. Your passion for writing clearly shines through and I'm sure it will bring you lots more success in the future. Best wishes x
ReplyDeleteHello Tracey,
DeleteThank you very much for commenting and for your best wishes.
Excellent interview, Christine! I've read before that you write your books in groups, and that fascinates me to no end. I don't know if I'm a patient enough person to survive something like that. Your professionalism and work ethic have made you my hero for rest of the week! You can check that item off your list now. :)
ReplyDeleteCheers!
Hello Greg,
DeleteYes. I find that a storyline can evolve as I mull it over and when I start one book the characters within in it expand the storyline, which is what happened with the Ludlow Hall stories. With the vampire saga I knew from the beginning that it would be more than one book. What I didn't realise was how it would become a totally separate entity, in that the threat was not only to the future of humankind but to our reality of it and that meant a bigger Big Bad Guy who was at the heart of it. The key was to find The End before I wrote the beginning which is why although I've five completed drafts under my belt I can't publish number one until I can work backwards, if that makes sense?
Christine, you have made such great points in this interview. As a secret writer, I used to tell myself that I would write when I retired, but your point that we should follow our dreams now is borne out by your success. I will also agree that the WANA community is very helpful and supportive.
ReplyDeleteIt is lovely to see your success and how well you've built C. C. Mackenzie as a brand.
Elizabeth Anne Mitchell (unsure why I'm showing up as Anonymous!)
Hello Elizabeth,
DeleteWe're all secret writers when we take the first shaky step on the path. Consider how vulnerable and naked we feel because we've poured our hearts and soul into the work. And of course we put the work out there into various places for feedback. And sometimes that feedback stings or hurts or makes us feel somehow less than. That's when we need to knuckle down and learn the craft and find the right support.
I said 'the right' support. And that's key. You're right, WANA is a great framework. The girls who've come together to bring us this blog put their work out into the big wide world and found support and amazing feedback during The New Voices competition and they've come together to support one another on the journey forward. And they'll all take different paths to success and that's as it should be. But, Elizabeth, you make a great point - why wait? Who knows how long we have on this earth? We need to make the most of our time here and go for it and we'll never get everything right all of the time. We're human beings not machines and we make mistakes.
However, the work needs to be ready to go out there. Have a great story, write great characters, write deep emotional conflicts, edit it, copy edit it, and have betas read it and then send it out.
My dream is to see good, talented writers get their work out to readers. And I can tell you now that the girls who write this blog are huge talents.
Again, wonderful points, Christine. I will certainly keep track of the authors on this blog; it's exciting and affirming to see talented authors come into their own.
DeleteElizabeth
Glad to see Reckless doing so well! Great interview Christine and I'm so sorry about your brush with cancer. Glad you turned it around and made something positive out of it. Wish you all the success in the world x
ReplyDeleteHello Aimee,
DeleteYou're doing very well yourself! Thank you for stopping by and the good wishes.
Christine, I loved Reckless and now your new book is on my TBR pile teasing and taunting me with its presence. I may have to move it up int the pile and then all of the other books will be jealous!
ReplyDeleteIt was fun reading the interview and getting to know you a little bit better. Thanks!
Hello Sheila,
DeleteTeasing and taunting is what I was put on this earth to do!
Thank you for stopping by and supporting The Hot PinkTypewriter!
Hi, Christine! Lovely interview! I appreciate your leading me to this excellent site. It's so wonderful to see how well you're doing. I just got A Stormy Spring and can't wait to read it! If it's anything like Reckless, and I'm sure it is, I won't be able to put it down.
ReplyDeleteI am truly inspired by your courage and your outlook of writing and life and I look forward to learning from you. Thanks for sharing your gift!
Hello Johanna
DeleteI hope you enjoy the story and thank you for commenting.
Fantastic interview! CC you are amazing and have accomplished so much already!
ReplyDeleteReally enjoyed this! susielindau
Hello Susie,
DeleteThank you for commenting!
Great interview, ladies! So much valuable information. I love that you've taken your own destiny as a writer into your own hands. We can't control much in this world, but we can control how much effort we put into our goals. Your journey has been very inspiring! Oh, and I love Bronte, she's one tough, classy gal :-)
ReplyDeleteHello Shannon
DeleteThank you for commenting and support. Appreciate it.
Christine, your interview was great. It's so refreshing hearing indie authors talk openly about their experiences. It helps us feel like we are all in this together. I have to say, I love this site, particularly the hot pink typewriter!! And thanks so much for linking my RU post!!
ReplyDeleteHello Jillian
DeleteYou're a pink girl too! We just need to get the word out there that it's doable, eventually, and we need to look at the long game rather than the short game.
Wow, gone for a few hours and I feel like I've missed a huge party! Christine, thank you so much for being here today. Your responses have been so candid and so informative. Your genuine interest in supporting other authors is amazing, thank you. Congratulations on all your success, past and future, it is well earned. Please come back and visit us! Lindsay, awesome interview! :-)
ReplyDeleteThank you Victoria,
DeleteThis is a brilliant site, many peeps have mentioned it. I'll come back any time. And Lindsay tortured me, nicely.
Well, I'm going to have to second Greg--you are definitely a writer's hero. (and I'm sure to others as well) So much information in this interview and great advice that I'll definitely take to heart. Plus, I had no idea you wrote in so many genres. Wishing you continued success in writing and life!
ReplyDeleteWoo Hoo!
DeleteStacey Joy Netzel is in the house. You've got to check out her books!
Nope, you could never call me a writer's hero. Perhaps a readers hero? I'll accept that one, lol!
Writing in two genres is like having a busman's holiday. It seems to keep my writing fresh. About to dive into an urban future where humanity has been decimated by disease - and the cure is found by a billionaire head of a pharmaceutical company - who just happens to be a vampire and the hero. The heroine is a commander in the World Health Protectorate and a witch - and away we go! Can't wait.
Hey, Christine! What a fabulous interview. Thanks for sharing so much of yourself, and I will second your vote, re: the WANA's. They rock!
ReplyDeleteHello Kassandra,
DeleteThank you very much for stopping by to support the girls! And congratulations on the new grandson!
We do rock!
Hi Christine,
ReplyDeleteI learnt so much from your interview. Thank you for that. I realised just how far, I - as a new author - have to go! But, it's a journey I'm embarking on with a mixture of joy and trepidation.
Hello Tima,
DeleteYou're going to have a blast and you're in the right company to do it. These girls rock. It's a lonely business so surround yourself with a Positive and a Fun support team. No point in doing it if you don't have a blast, life is too short.
It's lovely to meet you.
Thanks so much for stopping by, Christine! That was a great interview and very informative. Found it very interesting what you said about social media and how to relate to your followers. Congrats on your great success!!!
ReplyDeleteHello Jennifer,
DeleteIt's been my pleasure and hope I shed a little light on the subject. How we relate to readers is key. In particular fans who've taken the time to contact you. They're like gold-dust and spread the word about our books. It's a slow process, but every single one who contacts me is a red letter day and a great thrill.
Another thing I would say is I never, ever spam my readers except to tell them when the next book's out. And I've a core group who will receive the first revised and edited (to death) completed story of Desert Orchid as gifts to keep them going until Run Rosie Run comes out in September. I'm hoping that by this time next year, I'll be on a beach in Bimini sipping mimosas, with a hunk in a loin cloth cleaning my sunglasses and serving me fruit! I can dream!
Fab interview! CC, it's good to see your books doing so well. Congrats. :)
ReplyDeleteThank you Kiru for stopping by and commenting.
DeleteTerrific interview! CC, I'm glad to hear your books are doing well! I really enjoy your blog and it's fun to learn more about your writing through this Q&A! :)
ReplyDeleteHi Kourtney!
DeleteThank you for commenting!
Love the interview, CC :-D -- and am so happy you are following your publishing dreams - ain't it grand (and terrifying? *laugh*)
ReplyDeleteHi Kat,
ReplyDeleteIt is terrifying!